Four more rebellions would follow, until 260 AC, when Maelys I Blackfyre, the last male of House Blackfyre, was slain on the Stepstones during the War of the Ninepenny Kings. Less likely to oppose by default & more likely to listen to him/followers/overtures. Who knows maybe in F&B volume 2, we'll find out that some of Aegon's bastards did go by Targaryen until the First Blackfyre Rebellion. Legitimized bastards usually do have the right to bear the name of their father. He forced the world to do things his way, and tried to break with the things of the past. Daemon was knighted at the age of 12 and granted the Targaryen ancestral sword Blackfyre, from which the name of his house is derived. [1], In the meantime, Brynden Rivers with his archers, the Raven's Teeth, had captured and assumed a position atop the Weeping Ridge, which overlooked the battlefield and allowed them to rain arrows down among Daemon and his commanders. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. But sadly once his reign as King began, Robert demonstrated that a good man is not necessarily a good King. [10] They were followed by five more sons, and at least two daughters. Both she and her older sister Visenya were married to Aegon, and it was said that she was Aegon's favorite. He had the full right to as he was legitimized, and on top of that Targaryen on both sides. Daemon II dies in prison following the Second Blackfyre Rebellion (the one outlined in The Mystery Knight) Haegon dies in the Third Blackfyre Rebellion, dishonourably executed, probably by Aerion Targaryen (aka Brightflame) for reasons as yet not clear – probably a future Dunk and Egg book Daemon was the founder of House Blackfyre, and bore the arms of House Targaryen with the colors reversed: a black three-headed dragon on a red field. A Great Council is called to determine who will succeed King Maekar I Targaryen. He commanded that Corbray was taken off the field. There wouldn't be any Bittersteels or Bloodravens or Blackfishs, etc. His lawful son succeeded him as King Daeron II Targaryen, but eventually, Daemon Blackfyre rose up in a civil war to try to replace him on the throne, known as the Blackfyre Rebellion. He had full Targaryen blood, was a great swordsman, and was loved by the people. Targaryen on both sides, Daemon had all the hallmarks of his house. The King Who Bore the Sword. The war went on for a year, and Daemon didn't just sit on his ass until Redgrass Field. He held the ancestral sword Blackfyre a key symbol of Targayren legitimacy, which was used as his houses name. 41 comments. Because giving him that degree of plot armor isn’t necessarily going to be a good thing. Given how prickly lords and knights are to their honor and traditions, you ma be surprised... You really think if Daemon went with Targaryen instead of Blackfyre he would've had a lot more support then he already had? Prince Daemon Targaryen is a prince of the Targaryen dynasty, and the younger brother of King Viserys I Targaryen. Powered by Invision Community. I mean, if Robb or Stannis had legitimized Jon he definitely would go by his father's Stark name, not the unpleasant Snow name. me), GRRM could have planned Pod to be Egg’s descendant (I mean a dragonseed). It has been suggested by Archmaester Merion that Brynden Rivers, another one of Aegon IV's bastard sons, was involved in the news reaching Daeron. [9] Daemon and Rohanne had a fertile marriage. Through her son with Aegon, Aenys I, the line of the dragonkings continued, with fifteen of the sixteen Targaryen kings being direct descendants of Rhaenys and Aegon. [11], The first and greatest of the Blackfyre Pretenders was the natural son of Daena Targaryen, sister, betrothed, and (briefly) wife to King Baelor the Blessed. He also knighted Daemon making him the youngest knight in the history of Westeros. It was said that Daemon rebelled because she had been denied to him by Daeron. His claim was the greater. [2], King Aegon IV negotiated a betrothal for Daemon to Rohanne of Tyrosh. Daemon III Blackfyre, the eldest son of Haegon I Blackfyre, and the grandson of Daemon I Blackfyre; Blackfyre Pretender during the Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion Daemon Blackfyre , whose exact ancestry so far remains unrevealed; a cousin to Maelys I Blackfyre, and a one-time Captain of the Golden Company Westeros: The 'A Song of Ice and Fire' Domain I think not, but I also think Laenor and Jacaerys Velaryon would have ruled as Velaryons, not as Targaryens. Anyways these two Characters have a quite a few parallels with each other. And then as we all know, he rose in Rebellion to … [6] There were some who felt that the sword symbolized the monarchy[7] as it had been the sword of King Aegon I Targaryen, the Conqueror, and had been passed on from king to king ever since. Daemon Blackfyre was Rhaegar before Rhaegar, except he was a better warrior. Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen is an historical figure from A Song of Ice and Fire.She was the first-born and only surviving child of King Viserys I's first marriage, to his cousin Aemma Arryn. Ummmm Lord Paramounts don’t mean jack shit I’d take Harrenhal over Riverrun any day Also says who that they didn’t have any support from a single Lord Paramount? And it would have been the start of a new dynasty. This suggests that Aegon IV didn’t give Bloodraven the other Targaryen sword – or if he did, the distinction is made between the gifting of Blackfyre and the gifting of Dark Sister because Daemon Waters was a Targaryen bastard from both parents (and his mother had her own claim to the Throne when he was a child), whereas Brynden Rivers only gets dragonblood from his father. [1][9] He took Daemon's widow and remaining children with him to the Free Cities, eventually ending up in Tyrosh. Those being: 1) Built like demi-gods in their prime/youth. They follow the adventures of "Dunk" (the future Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, Ser Duncan the Tall) and "Egg" (the future king Aegon V Targaryen), some 90 years before the events of the novels. Aegor Rivers claimed Blackfyre and rallied the rebels by leading a charge against the Raven's Teeth, but was eventually forced to flee. [2] In 182 AC, when he was twelve years old, Daemon participated in a squire's tourney, which he won. As a bastard of House Targaryen Daemon bore the arms of House Targaryen with the colors reversed: a black three-headed dragon … Daemon matured into a man of considerable charm and strength, mastering all weapons of the battlefield, but with the sword Blackfyre in hand he was said to fight like the Warrior himself. The Blackfyre Rebellion was an uprising led by Daemon Blackfyre, a legitimized bastard of King Aegon IV Targaryen and his cousin and lover Daena Targaryen, against his half-brother, King Daeron II Targaryen.The rebellion failed, and Daemon himself was killed in the Battle of the Redgrass Field. Blackfyre was confirmed as a house name since at least TMK, possibly even before that (ASoS first mentions the Blackfyre pretenders). [9] Besides the influences of his councillors, Daemon had come to resent having the status of bastard and what it represented. [9] According to Ser Eustace Osgrey, who fought on Daemon's side, Daemon fought "like the Warrior himself". #1. [11][1] In exile, Daemon's descendants continued their struggle for the Iron Throne, resulting in four more rebellions (Second, Third and Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion, and the War of the Ninepenny Kings), as well as one peacefull attempt during the Great Council of 233 AC. 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